Wanted - BIG pipe . . .

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:29 pm

. . . like this one;

It goes from the air inlet to the filter housing on my 17TGD and is well and truly knackered. If anyone has one to sell or knows where I can buy one, any help much appreciated.

Mothman · Post by **Mothman** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:38 pm

There was a new one on feebay a while back, suggest you have a trawl.

Andy

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:40 pm

Can't you just buy a universal pipe & just cut it to the correct size? Would be a lot cheaper than the proper one that was listed on e-bay, it was waaaay to expensive tbh...

Mothman · Post by **Mothman** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:43 pm

I could have used it but as you said bud, way too expensive, 35 quid methinks.

Andy

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:59 pm

There isn't one on Ebay now - or if there is I can't find it. I don't know if you could use any pipe - the correct one has a foam shroud on the inside. Don't know how important that is?

Post by **Tim Leech** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:15 pm

Paul have you tried reusing that one by getting some material tape and wrapping it round the lot?

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:22 pm

Roverman wrote:Paul have you tried reusing that one by getting some material tape and wrapping it round the lot?

I could gaffa tape it all back up - it might do the job (?) - but look like a dogs breakfast! I think I might do that anyway until I can find a replacement.

edit: STOP PRESS! NT Shaw have one (I think)

' 1 Air intake pipe, to filter casing 1.7 TD(?) 95639404'

Do you think thats for a turbo diesel - and if it is what's the difference if any?

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:33 pm

Concertina hose is widely availabe in many sizes.

IIRC that one is around 3" so something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290595861752 will do the job.

Although, it's not strictly necessary i don't think in our climate.

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:49 pm

Thanks for that Jay. That has worried me a bit though. With the knackered pipe (which was obviously blocking the air flow) the car would have been quicker to pedal (acceleration was about 0-60 in a minute or so - I kid you not!) I removed the pipe and although the car became drivable it's still VERY slow to accelerate. Could there be a blockage somewhere - a chunk of foam from inside the pipe maybe? I couldn't see anything when I looked and I removed all the pipework back to the manifold (it is the manifold isn't it? And when I say 'I' I mean infact 'an AA man'!)

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:57 pm

As that particular pipe is pre-filter anything lost from it would get caught by the filter itself.

As you have that pipe I am assuming yours is a 17 n/a? If so and your power losses are that dramatic i'd be looking to serious faults!

If it's a turbo (although i don't have that pipe on mine) i'd be looking in the area of lost boost, either the turbo itself or a blocked i/c.

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:04 pm

JayW wrote:As that particular pipe is pre-filter anything lost from it would get caught by the filter itself.

mmm I thought that - he was the bloke with the spanners so I let him get on with it! So the lack of pipe must be why the performance is down - instead of cold air being forced in from outside there's only hot air from around the engine - it would make a difference? 'Serious faults' sounds ominous - how 'serious'

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:06 pm

All depends on what engine you have (see edited post above).

If it's n/a i doubt you'd find ANY discernable difference taking the air from inside or out. Is that the hose that runs to the vent on the top of the rad?

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:26 pm

Lack of cold air into the engine will make the car lethargic, add in an old air filter thats dirty & then you've probably nailed the problem tbh. A replacement pipe & check the air filter for grubbyness & replace if necessary, then see if that changes anything. Don't worry too much, you are used to driving your Hurricane, your 17n/a will feel quite slow in comparison. Pop it round if you like & i can have a gander for you

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:42 pm

That answers the TD = n/a question.

I'd have to dissagree about the ambient air temperature on an n/a.

If power diminishes as the engine (and air temperature increses) your theory would be correct but as it appears to be constant and the power loss is continuous it would indicate a fault otherwise the power would still be there from cold until it warms up.

N/A's are a lot less subceptible to this phenomenon than TD's as the TD recirculates the heat building on the temperatures (hence the fitting of the i/c to lower it).

Equally, it could well just be the difference between his old TD and the step down to the n/a.

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:48 pm

JayW wrote: Is that the hose that runs to the vent on the top of the rad?

That's the one. I'm used to it being slower than the TZD and most of the power returned once I took the pipe off - but still a bit lethergic compared to how it has been. The engine starts on the nail and runs very well apart from that.