Just in case anyone was thinking of buying this:

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:29 am

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110862384538? ... 2120wt_177

Steer well clear. Or alternatively, buy it and then refund me the £175 I've already paid him on deposit. Otherwise I'll want half the car since that's what I've paid for.

More details via PM, and to be added to this thread soon.

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:27 am

This guy's feedback reads like the script for a disaster movie !

I think the significant points in the listing are 'was very fast' (my italics) and 'has big engine rattle'.

Good luck getting your money back.

Gibbo2286 · Post by **Gibbo2286** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:43 am

Advice has to be always "Don't pay a deposit to anyone on Ebay."

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:43 am

No chance of getting money back I fear. I've pretty much handled it as naïvely as I possibly could

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:46 am

Gibbo2286 wrote:Advice has to be always "Don't pay a deposit to anyone on Ebay."

At the point when I paid the deposit it wasn't on ebay, you see. What's happened is I agreed the sale with him, paid him half, and agreed to pick the car up and pay the rest on collection. Fast forward a couple of weeks, he decides he wants the rest of the money upfront (bear in mind I haven't even seen the car!!) or he "will assume I no longer require the car". A day later it appears on ebay with a few details changed from when it was offered to me (namely the "big end gone" has changed to "engine rattle"...) He won't return my calls, same old story really...

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:48 am

This is theft and you should report him both to eBay and to the police.

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:51 am

Thanks for your support Phil. I absolutely intend to. I've emailed him and offered him a final chance to make good on the deal we agreed, which is more than he deserves, but I do still want to believe the best of him, I just think he's in financial trouble. Or rather he is financial trouble.

Anyway, if he doesn't reply by tonight then I have a few spare hours on the train which I will spend writing to ebay/north wales police/solicitors.

I know I've been stupid though, just want to warn others off!

Gibbo2286 · Post by **Gibbo2286** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:54 am

Agreed Philip but the police are unlikely to act, they'll say it's a civil matter, the small claims court will however get your money back if you care to go that route (If of course he has any money)

If the deal was done outside Ebay I guess they will wash their hands of it.

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:13 am

Selling goods that aren't yours to sell might go against eBay's code?

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:26 am

djoptix wrote:
Gibbo2286 wrote:Advice has to be always "Don't pay a deposit to anyone on Ebay."
At the point when I paid the deposit it wasn't on ebay, you see. What's happened is I agreed the sale with him, paid him half, and agreed to pick the car up and pay the rest on collection. Fast forward a couple of weeks, he decides he wants the rest of the money upfront (bear in mind I haven't even seen the car!!) or he "will assume I no longer require the car". A day later it appears on ebay with a few details changed from when it was offered to me (namely the "big end gone" has changed to "engine rattle"...) He won't return my calls, same old story really...

Hopefully this won't sound too naive, but even if it's in e-writing surely you have that "contract and conditions of sale" with him, and both parties have agreed to it. I'd definitely recommend threatening him legally though even if you don't plan to, with any luck he'll just play ball. Ebay also has its policy on misrepresentation: http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Sold-as-seen- ... 0002394120

Sorry to hear about that though and good luck.

Post by **Defender110** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:14 pm

Why don't we all bombard him with questions like;

Are you going to return the deposits you have already taken on this car before accepting others?

He might buckle if he gets enough questions in his ebay 'ask seller a question'

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:40 pm

If you want the listing to disappear just shop him to eBay for offering a BIN on an auction format. It's against their terms.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:48 pm

What a crook!

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:07 pm

I think many missed that Rob didn't buy it via ebay so there can be no comeback that they'll be interested in.

However, you can contact Paypal (even if the money was a "gift") and remember, if the payment was funded from a credit card you'll have automatic protection between the card company and Paypal (this usually varies but normally starts around £80-90 purchases).

Im i right in thinking this car is the one Linguist has been trying to shift for ages?

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:16 pm

No, not Linegeist, but Brian Pollard* aka Sportsman on here. It has been for sale for a while though.
*other surnames are available on request