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Replacement swivel joint boots

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Having had a succession of steering swivel ball joint failures after about 12 months use I now have 3 good joints needing new boots.
Before I just throw them away though has anyone any experience of the boots on eBay sale here : http://tinyurl.com/cukvnsl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I am minded to give them a try but do you know better ???
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I wouldn't bother they will probably rot after one winter, I use good joints, Delphi or First line, they have a very good life span.
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I just picked up a First Line joint for £7 - it's hardly worth fitting a new boot to an old joint when they're that price
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That is of course assuming the low priced joints last longer than the boots! Personally I haven't had any long term experience of either makes in terms of ball joints but FL CV boots seem to last OK. (As an aside, Delphi pads were the only brake pads I've renewed before they wore out as they were so terrible!)

I think whether it's worth renewing a joint rubber boot depends on the quality of the joint in the first place, and also how quickly you notice the failure. Probably little point in renewing if the joint is full of road dirt...
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That's interesting about the brake pads. What problem did you have with them? I must have used in excess of 5oo sets of delphi pads in the last two years with no returns, I swear by them. I have recently started using pagid, i have probably fitted about twenty sets but have had two back for squealing so will probably go back to using delphi.
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Much smaller sample (one!) than yours but I fitted a set to the Discovery a couple of years back. Actual stopping power was fine, but their tendency to fade was frightening! Even when not towing, a single descent of the hill leading to our house was enough that they would be fading.

It's possible it was a bad batch, or even that they were fake Delphi parts; but I fitted EBC Green pads and now have slightly better stopping power and no problems with fade to date.
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Actually what made me try pagid lately was the rep came to see me and he had graphs with him demonstrating delphis poor performance compared to pagid. My tzd that is off the road waiting for an engine had terrible brake fade when driven enthusiastically i'm now wondering what make of brakes i fitted to it at the time?
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Currently using genuine Cit discs and pads, and they squeal worse than anything I've used in recent years!
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barry badger wrote:I wouldn't bother they will probably rot after one winter, I use good joints, Delphi or First line, they have a very good life span.
Well, I only use good ones now, First Line or QH, experience is a good thing to have but is only learnt as a result of making mistakes. Its easy to get locked into using a 'favourite' make but there must be other reliable brands worth using.
The bad joints all have a sort of star shaped 3 arm emblem in a triangle on them. The actual joints seem fine its just the gaiters which crack open.

So , to repeat has anyone tried these and have any 'experience' to offer as I want to try rebooting them as mentioned in my OP.

As for brake pads, a highjacking has taken place, not the first time, so I will join in. I don't care what make I get. I don't buy on eBay only from a local factor, AES, GSF or Malcolm Lockwood. I am sure I could make any of them fade if I really tried but they all seem to last about the same length of time, the worse the condition of the disks the quicker they wear down. So they get changed about once a year before they wear right down on the GTi and when they really need it on the others.

There is a stretch of road near here I used to use regularly in my first GTi, with a succession of roundabouts before I had to turn right off of the road. When I thrashed the car and accelerated up to 70 or 80 between roundabouts and then braked hard I often noticed smoke and smell wafting up from the front disks while I waited to turn right and there was bad fading when they were that hot too always.
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