On Leboncoin a rarity at €35000

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On Leboncoin a rarity at €35000

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http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/418546150.htm?ca=12_s

I must admit I think they are hideously ugly and a piss poor piece of design but there are not many chances to buy one of these…
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Looked at one at Rally Day at Castle Coombe about 6 years ago for sale for GBP 7,000. This Euro price on the not so good 'le bon coin' is a stupid price for one of the 200 road homologated examples of the worst Gp B rally car ever. The Rally cars (20 could be built after the FIA had seen the 200) achieved one 6th place in an FIA Calendar event. Mark you for ugliness a Metro 6R4 takes a bit of beating and I am not even sure the BX beats it on that count!
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I'd have one, i bet it drives a damn site better than it looks :)
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Sadly not according to the road tests I've read. Brakes come in for significant criticism AFAIK. The genuine GpB article might be more fun - but a lot more challenging - to drive. Still a duff competition car though.
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I never pay any attention to road tests, especially when they relate to hydraulic citroens which never seemed to get a brilliant write up as they are sooo different to drive than the other fodder that testers are used to, so i'm not surprised they don't like them. I bet it goes better than my TXD & is more fun as well. Citroen brakes coming in for criticism, that'll be they are either on off analysis, again by testers who don't like that sort of system, they prefer a mushy pedal feel as that's what they are used to.
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At first I thought this was a wind up, as the car looks just like my Otto model. €35,000 doesn't seem unreasonable in my book. I actually like the looks. 8)
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The brakes are a serious issue with them.
We had the use of one (previously from the Patrick collection, now in France) in 2003, and took it to a grp B rally day and to a CCC rally. Nearly had an incident with a concrete post, when the brakes decided not to bother on a corner. Scary stuff - but fun too!
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When I had an FIA International Rally Licence and was rallying my GS FIA Gp 2 in the Historics in the Spanish WRC round and Rally Deutschland and the Tour Auto I discussed these cars with the likes of Walter Rohrl and Jean Ragnotti (and I think we can trust the assessments of World Champions) everything was wrong with these cars: Engine, transmission, brakes, balance......
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Truly horrible, but if one passed me in the street my chin would hit the deck. The BX4TC is still a legend after all! 8)
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Aren't we getting confused between the road going & the actual wrc monster, they are both different beyone belief as the wrc one's have a lot more power etc.... Has anybody actually driven both, i doubt it.....
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Birotor wrote:Mark you for ugliness a Metro 6R4 takes a bit of beating and I am not even sure the BX beats it on that count!
:shock: I thought the 6R4 was a cracking car and looks great especially the sexy rear?

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I like the 6r4, its an absolute beast :)
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I personally am not confusing the 200 with the 20 Evo cars.... Nor were Walter R and Jean R; they were reflecting the qualified views of the paddock..... Probably, having driven a works Quattro, the biggest mistake was the lack of a central diff which Audi had and Citroen thought was not needed - and were proved wrong.
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So to clarify, Walt & Jean were giving their views not only the wrc version, but the road going one as well? If that's the case then who the bloody hell am i to disagree with their thoughts :) Although to be fair, what i personally might consider good they might not, haha...
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I'd have a Metro 6R4 if I could afford one... don't they have the same engine as a Jag XJ220?