Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
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Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
I know (I think) the estate ones are bigger diameter, but without having one of each to hand, any quick way of telling whether one is estate or hatch? Diameters? Identifying marks?
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Ile go do you some piccies of an Estate in a tick if that helps?
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Sorry bud, too dark, camera wont focus, do some for u tmorra.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
I think they look the same externally Andy - I think it's the inside that's different, I just don't know exactly how!
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Dont think they are the same, i think the length is different too.
Sort pix tomorrow.
Andy
Sort pix tomorrow.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
I think the difference is the piston diameter - 35mm for the saloon and 37mm for the estate.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Yes, they are the same casting but machined out to a thinner wall thickness for the estate (although I couldn't remember the exact ID). Hence a greater tendency to corrode through. I don't have a hatchback strut at the moment to compare side by side, but from what I recall there was no visible difference externally.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
I had one fail - in the works car park just after doing some Citrobics and saying "look - the supension goes up and down"Hence a greater tendency to corrode through
At the time I didn't know there was a difference between the hatchback and the estate - so I didn't check that the right one was fitted as the replacement, but
is only a 5.7 % difference - so how much difference does it make ? And what would be the effect of fitting the wrong type to one side ?35mm for the saloon and 37mm for the estate
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Here are a few piccies, dont know if they will help or not.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Sorry Andy, confusion creeping in here.... I meant suspension struts/cylinders.... Should have made that clear....
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Andy's one's are a damn sight cheaper than the usual one's fitted, i'm going to try & fit some
My understanding is that the piston rod is a different length, so you'd need to swap them over if you don't have the right one's, along with the rubber gaitor as this is a different length also. No idea about thickness, doubt it'll make much difference tbh.
My understanding is that the piston rod is a different length, so you'd need to swap them over if you don't have the right one's, along with the rubber gaitor as this is a different length also. No idea about thickness, doubt it'll make much difference tbh.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
The thickness will make difference because the law of hydraulics is "force per unit area" therefore making it easier to achieve lift on a heavy load with a bigger piston.
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
Sorry bud, i assumed you meant tailgate struts, silly me, never heard rear cylinders called struts before. Sorry.KevR wrote: Sorry Andy, confusion creeping in here.... I meant suspension struts/cylinders.... Should have made that clear....
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Re: Difference between rear struts for estate and hatch?
damn, I need a pair of struts for the estate aswell (tailgate ones)
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