Fun conversion anyone?

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:03 pm

may very well do but i bet it wont beat my rst though

tim leech · Post by **tim leech** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:12 pm

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cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:37 pm

Fair comment Jon, enjoyed reading that. I know we should probably worry about emissions but in a car the age of a BX being honest I'd rather have 'uncomplicated' power without the hassle of fitting more modern engine plus all the bits needed to make it work. I initially thought that this may have been a good replacement for the standard BX motor but from reading the replies it doesn't seem worth the effort.

DavidRutherford · Post by **DavidRutherford** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:56 am

The only possible benefit I could see would be improved fuel economy in normal driving.

Comparing the same bodyshell, a Pug 306, the HDI engine is about 15-20% more economic than the XUD9TE engine, while producing almost exactly the same power.

Wouldn't be worth it in a BX. Now... a 110 version, with an intercooler might be an entirely different prospect.

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:16 am

glad you see the good side tim, no pun intended. I do like diesel but being a BOY RACER i like petrol lol, The 16v is due a new head soon which is polished and ported with big valves and piper 270 cams and re-angled valve seats pus other mods ive got will see it make 185-190 bhp.
now the rst is a different story.
My spec is-

power engineering polished and ported (gas flowed ) big valve cylinder head.
Piper 285 t2 high lift cam
piper vernier pully
sierra 1.8 cvh valve stem seals with collar
5 th injector on charge carrier
bleed valve
Felpro group A head gasket.
Power engineering unlimited boost chipped fuel+ turbo ECU
1600 re bored to 1769cc re-bored and lowered compression. Oversized pistons, lightened and balanced crank, and fly wheel,
ERL water injection systems (keeps ACT,S down)
Arp bolts
group A oil pump
- 31 actuator
stage 3 hybrid turbo with 360 degree bearings and cut back blades
Pace intercooler
swirl pot
silicone boost and coolent hoses
oil seperator
alloy coolant tank
balies dv 27 dump valve
mongoose ful stainless system
21 psi of boost
270 bhp+ 220 lb of tourque
Ill post the graph shortly

ANY vw that comes up agains me will get wasted lol...... sorry tim

its a 13 second quater mile car

viva la bx.........

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:02 am

im going to try for 350-400 converting from mfi to cosworth injection system with the specialisedengines 1.9 tall block as i dont like zvh conversions

oh why didnt citroen make the bx this tunable

cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:39 am

rob-bx16v wrote: glad you see the good side tim, no pun intended. I do like diesel but being a BOY RACER i like petrol lol, The 16v is due a new head soon which is polished and ported with big valves and piper 270 cams and re-angled valve seats pus other mods ive got will see it make 185-190 bhp.
now the rst is a different story.
My spec is-

power engineering polished and ported (gas flowed ) big valve cylinder head.
Piper 285 t2 high lift cam
piper vernier pully
sierra 1.8 cvh valve stem seals with collar
5 th injector on charge carrier
bleed valve
Felpro group A head gasket.
Power engineering unlimited boost chipped fuel+ turbo ECU
1600 re bored to 1769cc re-bored and lowered compression. Oversized pistons, lightened and balanced crank, and fly wheel,
ERL water injection systems (keeps ACT,S down)
Arp bolts
group A oil pump
- 31 actuator
stage 3 hybrid turbo with 360 degree bearings and cut back blades
Pace intercooler
swirl pot
silicone boost and coolent hoses
oil seperator
alloy coolant tank
balies dv 27 dump valve
mongoose ful stainless system
21 psi of boost
270 bhp+ 220 lb of tourque
Ill post the graph shortly

ANY vw that comes up agains me will get wasted lol...... sorry tim

its a 13 second quater mile car

viva la bx.........

Sounds ace mate, must be a flying machine?
Don't worry about wasting VW's by the way, it's like taking sweets off a kid!

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:02 am

It is but its a pain to keep in a straight line with huge torque steer.
Thats where the bx wins hands down. I wish i could get that sort of power from the bx but with in being normaly aspirated its very very expensive and hard

tim leech · Post by **tim leech** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:15 am

rob-bx16v wrote: glad you see the good side tim, no pun intended. I do like diesel but being a BOY RACER i like petrol lol, The 16v is due a new head soon which is polished and ported with big valves and piper 270 cams and re-angled valve seats pus other mods ive got will see it make 185-190 bhp.
now the rst is a different story.
My spec is-

power engineering polished and ported (gas flowed ) big valve cylinder head.
Piper 285 t2 high lift cam
piper vernier pully
sierra 1.8 cvh valve stem seals with collar
5 th injector on charge carrier
bleed valve
Felpro group A head gasket.
Power engineering unlimited boost chipped fuel+ turbo ECU
1600 re bored to 1769cc re-bored and lowered compression. Oversized pistons, lightened and balanced crank, and fly wheel,
ERL water injection systems (keeps ACT,S down)
Arp bolts
group A oil pump
- 31 actuator
stage 3 hybrid turbo with 360 degree bearings and cut back blades
Pace intercooler
swirl pot
silicone boost and coolent hoses
oil seperator
alloy coolant tank
balies dv 27 dump valve
mongoose ful stainless system
21 psi of boost
270 bhp+ 220 lb of tourque
Ill post the graph shortly

ANY vw that comes up agains me will get wasted lol...... sorry tim

its a 13 second quater mile car

viva la bx.........

Not nto the power game myself, but one of our techhys has a Golf Gti Mk2 with a Mk4 1.8T engine in it which is pumping out something daft like 325bhp!

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:33 am

I know the feeling tim. cars are my hobbie and i dont smoke and only drink at the weekends so cars is where a big chunk of my money goes. As for your mates golf it will be fast but a bet they weigh a bit?? ive always gone for cars with a good power to weight ratio. The other problem with the rs is getting it off the line when the boost kicks in

Would still consider having a bx tzd turbo for a daily driver but i think 3 cars is more than enough

tim leech · Post by **tim leech** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:03 pm

I know what u mean, i was up to 6 cars last weekend, Im no down to five, all of which are Moted and Insured

rob-bx16v · Post by **rob-bx16v** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:14 pm

Its suprising what you can actualy spend on a car throughout ownership!.

Ive had the bx 16v 7 years now and have recipts for £10,000
and ive had the rst now for 4 years and have recipts for £4,500 and that doesnt even cover the price i paid for the 2 cars

. People who know me always say why have you spent so much money on your cars as they are old and why not have bought a new one instead

The awnsers simple new cars are heavy, ugly, all look the same, cost a packet when they do go wrong due to so many electical bits and sensors every where, servicing costs for many high performance cars eg evo,subaru. With the ford and citroen you can rip em to bits and put them back together in a day

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:25 pm

rob-bx16v wrote:Ive had the bx 16v 7 years now and have recipts for £10,000
and ive had the rst now for 4 years and have recipts for £4,500 and that doesnt even cover the price i paid for the 2 cars

I believe that you are heavily into waxoyl Rob.

How much of this was your waxoyl costs?

tim leech · Post by **tim leech** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:03 pm

Not at all, hence hy my 16vs was rather rotten. When its all fixed it will get aliberal coating underneath.