Hello to all at the BXClub. Would anyone fancy a GTI.

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:53 pm

Here it is on the bay of nogging.

Has the green seats, doorcards etc..is this a re-sprayed hurricane or is it just been converted to look like one. Either way it looks like a one off & i quite like te black

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1993-CITROEN-BX-G ... 240%3A1318

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:22 pm

Well intriguing. There aren't the Hurricane graphics on the 'C' pillar and the GTi badge/logo on the rear is not standard (although the design is). Apparently one owner and low mileage, so it's HIGHLY unlikely that it has been converted from a 'normal' black GTi to a Hurricane look-alike.

Possible explanation is: a dealer special. A Hurricane resprayed in black. A factory special (not likely, I guess). I would suggest a shot of the door shuts and engine bay would offer more clues - especially if the colour code was stencilled on the inner wing!

Looks lovely though.

RxBX · Post by **RxBX** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:16 pm

Hi Philip,
Details of the DVLA vehicle enquiry states its definitely BLACK !
Also according to the details as below its taxed until the end of FEB 2010 as there's no mention of that in the Flea Bay listing so if its included in the sale that worth appox. £155 so that makes the price of the actual car £745 if some hit the buy it now button )£900) BUT obviously get the confirmation of that via a posted message first from the dealer/listing it by using the 'Ask seller a question' then this would make this BX a reasonable purchase for someone maybe ?

VEHICLE ENQUIRY Services Provided By DVLA:

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for K995 BMJ are:

Date of Liability 01 03 2010
Date of First Registration 16 03 1993
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1905CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLACK
Vehicle Type Approval null
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £101.75
12 Months Rate £185.00

chriscarterstevens · Post by **chriscarterstevens** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:22 pm

chillip wrote

Possible explanation is: a dealer special. A Hurricane resprayed in black

question is does that make it rarer and more valuable or is it just a bx gti (or whatever it is)???

tbh his starting bid seems a bit high...thats just my opinion tho

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:44 pm

Well, a Hurricane GTi is just a GTi, but for the trim differences. So my guess is is a special order in Black. UNLESS once a car's colour is changed and the DVLA are informed, their database is correspondingly updated.

I would suggest part of the appeal of this car is the mystery. And the combination of the body kit with black is great. I'd be tempted if I had a spare £750 - with a hefty load of TAX. As for £900? Not sure it's ever worth that. but then again, it is unique.

mountainmanUK · Post by **mountainmanUK** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:49 pm

Its easy enough to have the registered colour changed on the V5. All you need to do is to fill in the relevant section on the back, and send it off to Swansea! Ive done it several times in tne past, after repainting old bangers into something prettier!

I suppose that this car COULD have been a "specially ordered" Black variety from new, IF the original purchaser specifically requested it?

The inner wing coding, or a peek behind the door cards (or boot floor) could reveal something.

chriscarterstevens · Post by **chriscarterstevens** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:54 pm

dave's signature is

Dave

I'm not a complete idiot......some parts are missing!

i have that very same condition, plus i have it on a rather nice fridge magnet

mountainmanUK · Post by **mountainmanUK** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:59 pm

chriscarterstevens wrote:dave's signature is

Dave

I'm not a complete idiot......some parts are missing!
i have that very same condition, plus i have it on a rather nice fridge magnet

Believe it or not Chris........but I only saw it last night on TV!

It was on one of those typically American "bumper stickers", on the back of a pickup in the movie "Jeepers Creepers 2"

I like it so much I thought I'd use it as a tagline!

chriscarterstevens · Post by **chriscarterstevens** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:04 pm

NEVER a truer word spoken in reference to me

im not a complete idiot...some parts are missing

Post by **docchevron** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:07 pm

It cant be a genuine Hurricane, unless it spent some time unsold.
Quite why anyone would go to the trouble of speccing black I dont know.

Equally the lack of hurricane pin striping and decals would also suggest it was either once green and has been resprayed, or much much more likely, it's a plain GTi thats been "Hurricaned".

Post by **Tim Leech** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:33 pm

Acording to the Hpi this is what it says:

VIN VF7XBFY0000FY7899 Exterior Colour BLACK
Registration Date 16/03/1993 Previous Registered Keeper 0
Engine Size 01905 Make CITROEN
Model BX GTI HURRICANE Model Year
Is Scrapped ? No Is Exported ? No
Is Imported ? No Scrapped Date
Exported Date No. of gears 5
Fuel Type PETROL CAPCode CIBX19GTC5HPIM
Transmission MANUAL 5 GEARS Engine No.

Strange ey! Must have been a special order maybe?

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:46 pm

The plot thickens

Only a shot of the inside of the engine by where the paint code is and a shot of the n/s front door shut where the ORGA no. is would help clarify.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:49 pm

Phil it would flag up if its hada colour change in its life so its always been black!

Post by **docchevron** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:06 am

The VIN further gives it away.
It aint a genuine Hurricane.

DLM · Post by **DLM** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:49 am

OK - we're all agreed the price is high as it stands. The tax is probably now a near-face-value extra, by negotiation, but a no-brainer if someone has really convinced themselves they want the car. The car is unlikely to turn up elsewhere without comment from the eagle eyes on this forum.

It's an oddity - most cars with one owner and fsh don't have a transplanted interior or exterior bits - that usually comes with a subsequent owner after the car's knocked around a bit, though the leather interior on my current car was originally in a TG whose owner bought his BX new then paid for hand-trimming in leather because he wanted leather but couldn't get it as an option for that model. People do the strangest things for their own reasons.

As Aretha Franklin once sang, "Who's zoomin' who?". Or who's zoomed who when. Somewhere along the line for some reason, the "Hurricane" tag was put into the logbook for this one - motive unknown, if you're feeling charitable.

It's a Gti with a Monza interior, whale-tail and matching rear body kit, fogs and no exterior Hurricane badging. HPi would have shown up any serious incident - if taken through a paid-for-through-insurance route. Even a minor shunt writes off a fully-comp BX in insurance terms, though.

I'd still want to have the boot carpet out to look at the boot floor, but do a bit of thumb-pressing at the rear of the boot floor first to find out if that was even necessary - it's been enough to make me walk away from a shiny black BX before now. And a good squint in that area from underneath, along with all the other corrosion checks underneath and topside, plus road-test, Citaerobics, and a good look under the bonnet. Exhaust rear pipe section looks like it's been on a while.

3 years before this car was sold, superlustre black paint was the cheapest option on a BX (but not applicable to special editions). Maybe it still was in 1993, for a GTi.

Perhaps..... the owner persuaded the servicing garage (or vice versa), who must have had a long relationship, to fit the Hurricane/Monza interior from a part-ex. Perhaps..... the car's been a father-son one in terms of who drove it or fiddled with it towards the end of its ownership. Those can be murky waters. Perhaps.......at the end of the day it's all speculation.

Incidentally, the rear head restraints don't look to match with the rest of the Monza interior, which they should AFAIR. Again, something a subsequent owner sometimes does (they make the rear view even worse than the standard hatch, and probably non-existent with a hoop spoiler, though not so bad with a whale-tail). If I had some for a BX hatch, I probably wouldn't put then on until I was about to part company with it.