Window-lifting channel, BX front offside, motorised

peterwight · Post by **peterwight** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:38 pm

Have any of you the lifting gear for an electric window? On my off side front window a bit has rusted and dropped off. I refer to the metal channel which was attached to the rubber channel in which sits the pane. (the motor pushes a runner along the metal channel to cause the glass to rise and fall).
So...I need either the channel kit, or if gripping the pane too well to remove, the window itself. Who can help me?

toddao · Post by **toddao** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:44 pm

I'm only really familiar with the electric windows on the Mk.1s - does anyone know if they're different?

Anyway, the metal runners are made of aluminium ( at least on my BX) and they shouldn't rust but what does happen is they fall off where they are bonded to the glass. The runner has to be bonded back onto the glass with high strength double sided tape - there's one that can take 40kg and works well.

The glass must be cleaned thorougly then prefably heated slightly with a hair dryer to get a good bond between the window, the tape and the runner. It's a fiddly old job - you have to make sure the window is in the front and rear vertical runners plus the other alu horizontal runner must be engaged before you bond the loose one.

I don't know if this is helpful - maybe Citroen changed the design later as it's a pretty crap system really!

velosolex50 · Post by **velosolex50** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:01 pm

Oddly enough, I was just about to post an appeal for the same bit........so if anyone has a further spare, I'd also be glad to hear from you. In the meantime, wooden blocks & gaffer tape are keeping most of the rain out. A pair of grey velour headrests would be good too.
regards
Huw
19tzi auto a/c estate

Kevin B · Post by **Kevin B** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:03 pm

I have seen this problem many times, the sheet steel simply rots away where water is able to lay in the chanel section, the only easy solution is to source the aluminium extrusion version from a Mk1 Bx, however these were also fitted to later Bx cars at the end of the production run.

The aluminium extrusion is held to the window glass by a tight fitting section of moulded rubber which has a barbed profile which allows you to easily fit the extrusion to the window glass but is a swine to remove.

Unless your window glass is a different tint to a window glass with this already fitted why bother to change them over. just fit the complete assy.

ellevie · Post by **ellevie** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:43 pm

Citroen part number 95 633 346
Used to be about £20

RxBX · Post by **RxBX** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:18 am

Hi, peterwight and velosolex50
I've PM both of you.

velosolex50 · Post by **velosolex50** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:33 pm

Thanks Ellevie
£11 from Cit & still available
Huw

mike st gilles · Post by **mike st gilles** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:08 pm

Had this happen on my TZD Auto (now in France) some years ago and fitted the new piece of channel and as said before I would think the mod has been to make it in ally so aiding it to last a bit longer.
Only thing I would say re the fitting is that you really have to have a bit of faith in the glass as it doesn't really fit easily and needs a fair amount of hammering to get it seated properly.

velosolex50 · Post by **velosolex50** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:19 pm

New channel fitted & all is well. I couldn't get the glass in with the rubber strip, so rather than risk busting the window I glued it in with Sikaflex, first assembling the winder mech in the door & testing the fore&aft position of the channel with the glass just resting in it. So far it has held fine.
Then of course, the control module was faulty, so the window stuck down.....but repaired by re-soldering the relay connections to the printed circuit board (in the black box screwed to the inside of the drivers door trim).
Now it works fine, so everything on the car works except for the radio......and the ABS again! But what would we all do if the cars didn't need a bit of attention now & again?

Post by **docchevron** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:46 am

What you do with the rubber is:
Place glass on an old tyre (off the rim obviousley)
then get the rubber strip and place it over the glass, then press one end of the channel against it as hard as you can. Then stretch the rubber by pulling the free end of it as hard as you can.
Then tap the channel into the glass faiely carefully and hey presto, it all goes together like a hand ina well fitted glove.

Obvioulsey it's easier with two people doing it, but it can be done with one, I've done loads of the things now, so much so I dont bother using a rubber mallet anymore, I actually do use a lump hammer!

citronut · Post by **citronut** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:43 am

i had a suposedly qualified glass fitter supply and fit an AX door glass to a customers car, he couldnt be botherd to clean the old metal and rubber up, so he used silkaflex ansd it only last about two weeks before the owner was back as it had come away, so i bought the new part from citroen and fitted that

i usualy lay the rubber in place then tap the metal into place with a hammer,

works every time

regards malcolm

mike st gilles · Post by **mike st gilles** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:45 am

<i usualy lay the rubber in place then tap the metal into place with a hammer, >

Ditto ...what he said...

velosolex50 · Post by **velosolex50** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:24 pm

Well, we'll see how long the glue lasts on mine. At least the parts were well cleaned, so theres a chance......... so far its brill to have a window that goes up & down without jamming/falling into the door.
Typically, our newish scenic has got a paralysed driver's window now......just out of guarantee, but renault have had so many problems with them that they have actually extended the warranty on the mechanisms for a further year. Good job as the bits are molto expensive. Sounds like its time to sell,as it is almost impossible to work on even if it is a very nice car
Huw