WANTED: My first BX!

Buy or sell parts etc. Please put 'Wanted' in the title if it is a request for parts.
Post Reply
tomcloy
New Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:07 pm

WANTED: My first BX!

Post by tomcloy »

Hi to you all

As you would have gathered from the subtle title, I have finally decided to realise my childhood dream, ditch my 1995 Merc C Class and get myself a BX!

I am not fussed about which model, although I love the single prong steering wheel :) but judging by the supurb content on this board I would think that could be dealt with later.

As the Merc will go, the car would need to be roadworthy with an MOT and the car must be an Automatic!

I am London based but will travel a reasonable distance.

I can be contacted through PM

Thanks and look forward to meeting my BX soon!
User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15579
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Derbyshire
My Cars: Various
x 150

Post by Tim Leech »

Hi Tom

Welcome to the club, depending what kind of driver may decide what kind of BX to go for, needing an auto you are well catered for as a high proportion of the models were available with the excellent ZF 4 speed auto which is very smooth and ultra reliable. For economy the 1.9D auto is best but as people will inform you its not quick (although one I had went VERY well) but can keep up with traffic. Failing that a 1.6 or 1.9 petrol auto can be a bit thirsty round town but ok on a run the 1.9 is quote nippy, even more so in the GTi auto format. The 16v, 1.4 and 1.7D/TD was only available from the factory with a manual box.

Any idea of budget and what kind of miles you will be doing, also will you be maintaining it yourself and does it need to be in good nick or just realiable!
Lots of Motors, mostly semi broken....
User avatar
MULLEY
Over 2k
Posts: 8406
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:10 pm
Location: Derbyshire
My Cars: 1999 Xsara LX 2.0HDI (90) Hatch - Fern
2002 C5 2.0 HDI (110) Estate - Jasmine - SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - SORN
1992 TZD Turbo Estate - SORN
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired - SORN
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN
x 8

Post by MULLEY »

Welcome, auto's are more rare than manuals, but the majority seem to be 1.6 or 1.9 petrols, i think personally the 1.9 is best, especially the Gti version which has got decent pace whilst is quite happy cruising the motorways nicely. A few members on here have various models of each, hopefully they can give you some advice on which one to possiby go for.
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Jasmine - Now SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - My daily
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired.
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN

I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.
tomcloy
New Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:07 pm

Post by tomcloy »

Hi Tom

Welcome to the club, depending what kind of driver may decide what kind of BX to go for, needing an auto you are well catered for as a high proportion of the models were available with the excellent ZF 4 speed auto which is very smooth and ultra reliable. For economy the 1.9D auto is best but as people will inform you its not quick (although one I had went VERY well) but can keep up with traffic. Failing that a 1.6 or 1.9 petrol auto can be a bit thirsty round town but ok on a run the 1.9 is quote nippy, even more so in the GTi auto format. The 16v, 1.4 and 1.7D/TD was only available from the factory with a manual box.

Any idea of budget and what kind of miles you will be doing, also will you be maintaining it yourself and does it need to be in good nick or just realiable!
Hi Roverman

Thanks for the swift reply!!

The car would be used for me to commute to work (4 miles so not much) and general town stuff. Motorway stuff would be fairly few and far between apart from the odd trip down the M23 to Gatwick every now and again!.

I currently drive a 2.8 Merc so I would imagine that the most thirsty BX would seem economical and would be quite a big drop on insurance which is a major plus. Problem with coming from such a big engine would be the drop in power so the 1.9 Petrol or the rather appealing GTI sounds good!. The 1.9 diesel also sounds quite interesting as autos on normal size cars are quite rare so I have never even driven one!

Budget, well with work being a bit dodgy it is "reasonable" at best. Maintainance would be done by a friend who is a top class mechanic. Only thing that worrys me is the BX suspension so if anyone knows of a good independant in South London, that would help a lot. Condition - Well I am not expecting a new car but not being mechanically minded I need to car to be sound and reliable but cosmetically I have an open mind!

What I really want to do (and perhaps someone tell me if I am being a bit too ambitious!) is put in the leather seats out of the CX which was the most comfortable car I think I have ever driven, especially with those seats! Know it was a tad bigger than the BX so I am sure it will just be an ambition!
User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15579
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Derbyshire
My Cars: Various
x 150

Post by Tim Leech »

You will have a long way to go to beat BX seats for comfort, maybe a GTi auto would be a good bet then, they are quite rare but do show up, Ive had one myself and it was a great car, I think the guy who bought it from me was looking to sell it on but it has been off the road for a year or two.

As for the suspension, most of the jobs any decent mechanic will be able to undertake and this forum can tell you anything else you need to know and help you find parts.
Lots of Motors, mostly semi broken....
mountainmanUK

Post by mountainmanUK »

Hi Tom (and another welcome to the Club :wink: )

I believe that these people are not TOO far from your neck of the woods, and are run by Citroen fans who are also members of this Club!

http://www.medwaycitroen.com/

You will find that if you come across ANY BX-related problems, there are plenty of knowledgeable people on these Forums, who will be only too happy to give you advice and/or help!

Good luck in finding that "perfect" BX for you! :D

Regards
User avatar
mat_fenwick
Moderator
Posts: 7326
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:08 pm
Location: North Wales
x 19

Post by mat_fenwick »

Phil (Chidlow) was possibly looking to replace his GTi Auto so that may be for sale, but I'm sure he will be along shortly to confirm this...
Image

1993 1.9 TZD Turbo Estate
1996 3.9 V8 Discovery
1993 VW LT35 campervan
1985 Hyundai Stellar V8
2016 Hyundai iLoad
User avatar
Philip Chidlow
Over 2k
Posts: 11594
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:08 pm
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
x 25

Post by Philip Chidlow »

Actually I did send a PM. But I won't sell at any price and I'm in no rush, so it's a no obligation suggestion!
• 1992 Citroen BX TZD Turbo Hurricane
• 2006 Xsara Picasso 1.6 16v
tomcloy
New Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:07 pm

Post by tomcloy »

I have replied to you by email :)
User avatar
Philip Chidlow
Over 2k
Posts: 11594
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:08 pm
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
x 25

Post by Philip Chidlow »

Have you? Nothing's come through - can you try again please? yo.phil@btopenworld.com

Cheers!
• 1992 Citroen BX TZD Turbo Hurricane
• 2006 Xsara Picasso 1.6 16v
User avatar
DLM
Our Trim Guru
Posts: 1620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2005 6:41 pm
Location: Gosport, Hampshire, UK
My Cars: Historically, lots of BX hatches/estates in the 90s/00s - 16/19i/17td/19d
Recent scruffy diesel n/a estate - "The Red Shed" - is no longer mine.
x 9

Post by DLM »

I've never driven a 1.9 Diesel auto but in manual form they're slow but steady sluggers and make surprisingly good "creepers" in slow-moving commuter traffic. The engine has potential to be long-lived if the cooling system is properly maintained, and it hasn't come to you "pre-cooked" (all BX models bar the GTi and 16v lack a proper temp gauge).

Diesel autos do pop up from time to time, and may quite possibly have had a careful owner - ditto 1.6 autos and the non-Gti 1.9 petrol autos. The TRi/TZi estates shared the GTi's engine and trim, and some came in auto form. Nice cars even if you don't like estates, but they're rather scarce.

South London? Pretty big area - though if you do regularly go down the M23 you could check out a company called Carprep in Redhill on the specialists list on this site. http://www.carprep.co.uk/index.htm

Their quoted labour rate from their website is £45 per hour. I have no knowledge of them other than their inclusion in the list. Some on this list may sell BXs from time to time, or know customers who want to sell - a bonus, as such cars should have evidence of being looked after - and used.

I'd beg to differ from Roverman here when he says of the suspension
As for the suspension most of the jobs any decent mechanic will be able to undertake
Some suspension jobs as above, yes, but the hydraulics in general? Ask "any decent mechanic" who doesn't normally service these cars to quote for changing an octopus return-pipe assembly, replacing the four front-to-rear hydraulic pipes or one of the major hydraulic components and see what kind of quote you get and their degree of enthusiasm for it..... what does your guy say about BXs?

The parts aren't necessarily expensive, but the labour-time to do it may be and often the only people who'll agree to do it are specialists if you're not doing it yourself. If you've owned a CX you must know that already...

Sphere changes, however only need

(1) The spheres themselves (hopefully still around cheaply at Eurocarparts, and German Swedish and French, as well as other sources)
(2) a 12mm spanner
(3) a £15-ish sphere removal tool and the spanner/wrench to tighten it up
(4) a jack and stands (for the rear ones, or possibly the accumulator, depending on model)
(5) an ability to follow instructions, and
(6) most importantly, a willingness to get your hands dirty

Other hydraulic work varies from straightforward through time-munching and neck-cricking up to "needs-considerable-time-enthusiasm and-expertise" (or money if you're paying someone else to do it). A well-maintained and regularly used car pays dividends on that front.
Back on two wheels and pedal power for the moment.
User avatar
Way2go
Over 2k
Posts: 7279
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:15 pm
Location: RCoBerkshire
x 2

Post by Way2go »

DLM wrote: Sphere changes, however only need ..................

(3) a £15-ish sphere removal tool and the spanner/wrench to tighten it up
Presumably this spanner/wrench is to undo the sphere in conjunction with the sphere removal tool?

I had to re-read this David to understand what you meant as the re-fitted spheres are only supposed to be tightened HAND tight.
1991 BX19GTi Auto
User avatar
DLM
Our Trim Guru
Posts: 1620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2005 6:41 pm
Location: Gosport, Hampshire, UK
My Cars: Historically, lots of BX hatches/estates in the 90s/00s - 16/19i/17td/19d
Recent scruffy diesel n/a estate - "The Red Shed" - is no longer mine.
x 9

Post by DLM »

The sphere removal tool was the intended object for spanner or wrench , if it's like the Pleiades one ... though I didn't really mean wrench so much as socket or those double-ended "clés à pipes" which the French are so keen on and I have a set of.

If I'd been talking about spheres, I'd have used the plural, unless I were hoping to create a new Olympic sport of synchronised sphere-cracking using a pair of sphere removal tools.
Back on two wheels and pedal power for the moment.
mountainmanUK

Post by mountainmanUK »

unless I were hoping to create a new Olympic sport of synchronised sphere-cracking using a pair of sphere removal tools
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine a BX "pit stop", where a BX was driven into a box and jumped on by a gang of willing bodies, jacked up, and all 5 spheres swapped in about 4.7 seconds!!! :wink: (I wouldnt fancy being the guy assigned to the accy, due to being in direct line with the exit lane!!!)

Nice mental pic DLM! :D
User avatar
DLM
Our Trim Guru
Posts: 1620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2005 6:41 pm
Location: Gosport, Hampshire, UK
My Cars: Historically, lots of BX hatches/estates in the 90s/00s - 16/19i/17td/19d
Recent scruffy diesel n/a estate - "The Red Shed" - is no longer mine.
x 9

Post by DLM »

That's another nice mental picture, though god know how you could get system pressure fully released/reinstated in 4.7 seconds - perhaps another reason to pity the poor guy working in the accumulator/regulator area...

I see we're getting guilty of the usual thread diversion practices here, in typical bxclub virtual flow diversion....
Back on two wheels and pedal power for the moment.
Post Reply