I can drive my car with out the key

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:23 pm

Ive notice today that i can take my key out the ignetion.
Is this normal?lol
I truned my key once. Then i took it out. I though this is strange. Then i tryed it on the seconed turne. Same thing happerned.
Then i turned my car on and i could still take the key out.

Post by **Defender110** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:37 pm

No it's not normal and don't try it whilst driving incase the steering lock comes on

Sounds like someone may have has lost a key and took the tumblers out of the lock so any key works.

Post by **docchevron** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:30 am

yep sounds like it. Mine was like that for years!

Best to get a new ignition barrell really.
Or if you're feeling really decadent get a complete lock set. They come up on Ebay quite often for not too much..
Do get a genuine Valeo set though..

If you're coming to Stratty we could even fit them for you!

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:23 pm

ive tryed my door keys they cant fit it.

Stinkwheel · Post by **Stinkwheel** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:32 pm

In that case its probably that the barrel tumblers are just badly worn, allowin only the correct key to work but not gripping it properly. My motorbike ignition does this (a bit of a problem if you happen to loose it) i use a bungy cor to attach it to thehandlebars, anyway, your ignition...........

I would advise a new in lock at least, you dont want that totally failing and falling apart leaving you in a spot of bother.

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:06 pm

Just to be clear, Jacksun, do you have 2 different set's of key's one for the ignition & then a totally different one for the door locks?

2 out of 3 of my cars had this, not really an issue tbh, except if the ignition tumbler is buggered then as the guy's have suggested, get a replacement.

Personally i would save a few quid & just get an ignition only replacement as the whole locks shebang is quite expensive, just to have one type of key that fits all the locks & ignition imho.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:45 am

MULLEY wrote:the whole locks shebang is quite expensive, just to have one type of key that fits all the locks & ignition imho.

Personally that would *really* bug me, but then again I may think otherwise if I was in the situation where I needed one lock replaced...

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:25 am

mat_fenwick wrote:
MULLEY wrote:the whole locks shebang is quite expensive, just to have one type of key that fits all the locks & ignition imho.
Personally that would *really* bug me, but then again I may think otherwise if I was in the situation where I needed one lock replaced...

Mine are all the same but I don't think it would bug me if they weren't as the door locks are locked/unlocked with the 'plip', so the only times you would be alerted to it is when you have to unlock the flap to get fuel.

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:05 pm

Plip, whats one of them

Must have only been fitted to those higher end tzd models

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:13 pm

I have spare locks etc.

They'll be in my autojumble at Stratty (all of which goes toward paying for the weekend)...

ben · Post by **ben** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:12 pm

Mines got a surprise key too.. occasionally the bunch of keys drops on my leg ,or i can take the ign key out while switched on, because, i thought, the key is worn right down , the spare isn't ,and won't pull out but is quite tight in the door lock so i just use the worn one ,pas de probleme ?

The steering lock wouldn't come on unless the lock was in the off position right?

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:29 pm

ben wrote:The steering lock wouldn't come on unless the lock was in the off position right?

Correct. It's not possible to lock unless it's turned back to the 'lock' position.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:16 pm

Ive got 4 keys. 2 for the door. 1 for the ignition. And i think the other one is for the petrol cap. But i think all 3 fit the doors.

Tourist · Post by **Tourist** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:25 pm

jacksun1987 wrote:Ive got 4 keys. 2 for the door. 1 for the ignition. And i think the other one is for the petrol cap. But i think all 3 fit the doors.

That sounds like a good security system ... obviously the key you want is the last one you try, so when you hear metal jingling and muttering out the window in the early morning you know you'll know exactly what's happening and there'll be time to act aswell.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:00 am

Ive got all of theses keus. And the passenger does not open. The locks wrong. So im missing the key.