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Hi, I am new to the BX scene and trying to track down a suitable car, but I'm not up to speed on the various different models.

I am looking at an ad for a BX 17 TGD saloon 1990. Would this be a turbo 17? If not, I am concerned it may struggle a bit compaired to a 19 diesel?

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Hi Simon,

If its a "17TGD" its a 1769cc NON turbo diesel with 60bhp, and probably no power steering, they are frugal and a very sweet engine but no ball of fire.

They did make a turbo diesel version but that should be badged as a TGD TURBO with no mention of the engine size on the tailgate, it will have power steering, a rev counter and electric sunroof, none of which the 17TGD has (unless ordered as an option), the rev counter was not available at all.

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A Simon who likes H vans. Trying to work out whether I know you or not...

Compared to an H van, I imagine a 17D would be like lightening! Is this the blue one? I've only got experience of both breeds of 1.9 diesel (65bhp and 71bhp) and its rare that they feel that slow - depending on how fast you want to go in the first place.

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OK, I will check with the seller, but if not a turbo I had better stick to looking for a 19 (I like the idea of a simpler engine anyway).

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hvanman wrote:OK, I will check with the seller, but if not a turbo I had better stick to looking for a 19 (I like the idea of a simpler engine anyway).

Many thanks.
If its a really nice one, why not go and give it a try, you may be surprised.

The 1.9D can be a better buy though as the power steering and 11 bhp are useful.
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I think you are right, it's worth a look. It has only done 57k and been stored in a garage for a year, but serviced yearly prior to that. It's a bit of a trip to view and it has no MOT, but looks a nice colour, but only one small picture to view so far.....

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A Simon who likes H vans. Trying to work out whether I know you or not...

Compared to an H van, I imagine a 17D would be like lightening! Is this the blue one? I've only got experience of both breeds of 1.9 diesel (65bhp and 71bhp) and its rare that they feel that slow - depending on how fast you want to go in the first place.
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Yes it's a blue one that from the single picture looks nice and is up for £250, but until you see it in the flesh and try and get an MOT who knows... But, low milage and looks cared for... I guess I'm not that worried about the speed, it was just that while I have the chance to select a certain model, I was trying to find the best options possible, but since I'm looking for a bargain, I can't be too picky!!

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hvanman wrote:I think you are right, it's worth a look. It has only done 57k and been stored in a garage for a year, but serviced yearly prior to that. It's a bit of a trip to view and it has no MOT, but looks a nice colour, but only one small picture to view so far.....

57k? thats very low miles, go take a look, it may be a peach!, but dont pay huge amounts for it as the 17 non turbo diesels are not that popular and of course it has no MOT.

I would start off at scrap money (£150) and see what he/she says, but stand a few feet away in case he gets a bit upset! :lol:

Where is the car? just thinking if anyones nearer to save you a trip to look.
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It looks straight, but as you say, it's a less popular model. It's at Market Bosworth, Leicester. Apparently it's had one owner who does not drive now, but it starts and drives... worth a look...

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If its in good condition & with that sort of mileage, i'd forget about getting a 1900 diesel, as you'd struggle to probably get one with that sort of mileage & chances are it will be battle scarred. These day's if you see a decent one at the right price, forget what engine its got or spec level as you might not see another decent one for peanuts again anytime soon.
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Yes I think it would be a very interesting car if it is sound, so I will try and get a viewing, mind you, I am going to take a look at the silver 19RD that was on the sale/wanted list, as that at least does have some MOT and seems to also have been well maintained and at 100k should still be fairly good.....

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hvanman wrote:It looks straight, but as you say, it's a less popular model. It's at Market Bosworth, Leicester. Apparently it's had one owner who does not drive now, but it starts and drives... worth a look...
Which is about half an hour from me......

If you are in no rush I would try and take a look at it but its going to be a week or two as im off to Spain thursday then working every day when I get back.
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Very kind offer Tim, but I need to sort something ASAP, so if the seller responds I will try and get up there for a look, just to see what condition it's in.

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hvanman wrote:I am looking at an ad for a BX 17 TGD saloon 1990. Would this be a turbo 17? If not, I am concerned it may struggle a bit compaired to a 19 diesel?
I used to have a 1.7 NA and as Ian has said speed was never an issue they are a great little engine, the lack of power steering unfortunately was for me :( But with that sort of miles if they are genuine it could be an absolute steal. I really wouldn't worry too much about lack of MOT if it is clean and been stored well they need very little to get them through a ticket.
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hvanman wrote:Very kind offer Tim, but I need to sort something ASAP, so if the seller responds I will try and get up there for a look, just to see what condition it's in.
No worries Simon, I wa soff yesterday so could have gone up, let me know how you get on.
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