The R21 Nevada Owners Club

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The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by toddao » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:03 pm

Is it alright if I sneak a crafty - newly arrived - Renault in? At least it's a contemporary of our beloved BXs!

Found locally last week and bought for the princely sum of €290 as I need more seats to accomodate the upcoming third child. It's a 1988 Nevada GTS ph.1 7-seater.

The father-in-law borrowed a trailer from a friend and the seller was fortunately equipped with a Landie to pull it out of his field where it's sat for a few months. More info to follow as I make investigations


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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by Mickey taker » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:37 pm

Good find Todd,is she a runner ?
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Post by toddao » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:54 pm

Sprayed a bit of Easy-Start into the air intake and she fired and ran for a few moments but I think the fuel pump is buggered. The cars been sat in a garage since 2001 til the garage got cleared this summer and has 160k kms ( about 100k miles). I'm going to drain all fluids and overhaul the brakes. The bodywork is surprisingly good - I've identified three minor welding needs near the front sills and a bit at the back. The interior is a bit grubby but complete : everything works - front leccy windows, central locking
It's the 1.7 litre engine with a catalyser fitted later on so tax is cheap and though it won't be the fastest it will be quite economical for a petrol.
After working on BXs for years it seems incredibly simple and quite basic really!

The seller was a right character - a hotrod and Harley freak covered in tats including 'V8' on his neck! But you couldn't meet a more friendly, helpful dude.
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Post by Mickey taker » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:46 pm

oi us old dragster and hot rod freaks are nice people , I havent got the V8 tattoo but have always been tempted , great find and like you say I have founf with the peugeots , its a citroen without all the hassle .
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Post by toddao » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:51 pm

Have you got a quiff by any chance Mickey? Still flying the rebel flag? :D

I got the old fuel pump out and it is indeed cactus. It's a Bosch and I got the number off it, tapped it in t'compooter and was confronted with €170-250 for a new one. There's loads of Chinese moody knock-offs but I've had it with cheapo parts after various non-fit issues with the BX.
Then, as is often the way on Ebay, I tapped it in a again later and up popped a 'new old-stock' Bosch with the exact serial number, Renault stock room clearance. Owned for €30.
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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by MULLEY » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:17 pm

Should scrub up well, ironic that a petrol motor which in reality harms the planet more is taxed less, what a stupid country, haha...
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Post by toddao » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:33 pm

It's all about 'small particulate matter' of which the old diesels produce a lot. I used to ride a pushbike all over London and the cloud of hot diesel exhaust that the old Routemaster buses put out was incredibly dense with what felt almost like pieces hitting you in the face.

A petrol motor burns ' cleaner' with a less gritty exhaust. The Renault will qualify for a 'green pass' - meaning I can now enter all the German cities that I wasn't supposed to enter before, but did. I don't know the ins and outs of the legislation - it does often seem like a programme to sell more new cars - but if I can find a lil'old cheap tax corner in the 80s that'll do me.

The kids climbed into it today for the first time and immediately headed towards the rear row of seats and enjoyed themselves. The wife sat in it too for the first time and said : it's not too bad! I like to think that the four BXs in the barn and their 'cousin' R21 find a lot to talk about as they sit there rusting!
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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by Dollywobbler » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:04 pm

I've got a full set of technical manuals for the Renault 21...

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Post by toddao » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:57 pm

Do they make for edge-of-the-seat nail biting reading then? :D Didn't you have a leathery R21?

If you no longer need the books.. just slight prob of a 1000kms.


I've joined the French Renault 21 owners club - a chance to practice my scrapyard French. There's one bloke on there who's restored a 1984 Espace. I know there's a few people who like them around here including me :


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Post by Dollywobbler » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:13 pm

I'm not sure I've ever actually looked at them...

I did indeed have a leathery R21 Monaco. Should never have sold it really. Great car.

I'm sure logistics can be overcome - just not immediately!

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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:31 pm

We had a 87 R21 1.7TL (boggo) which was ok but very basic, replaced by a 87 19RD BX which is where it pretty much all started......
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Post by toddao » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:59 pm

The manuals are not in any way urgent Ian. I think I mostly know what I'm doing and there's a Haynes on its way for back up.

Tim, I don't really think the R21 has any of the character of the BX - though I'm developing a mild interest in the TXE 'Electronique' and the Turbo -but it fits the bill for the family hack. Ironically it has increased my esteem for my BXs.

Just think of my R21 Blog as a small leper colony at the gates of the BXClub! :lol:
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Post by Tim Leech » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:04 pm

It wasnt a bad car from memory (I was only 14), and it went ok, was very spacious but had manual windows and not much else, it was lent to a collegaue at work and whilst parked in a laybay was rammed by a lorry and that was that!
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
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1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by mat_fenwick » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:11 pm

I can't talk, having recently defected to a Ford for the winter :oops: I'm actually quite enjoying tooling around in 'just a car' - I don't have to worry about the salt, someone running into it (which is handy, seeing as someone did yesterday - partly my fault though :oops: ), or finding parts.
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Re: The R21 Nevada Owners Club

Post by toddao » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:46 pm

Calling the site Admin/Moderators - can someone put a filter on my 'leper colony' to prevent the mention of the F%rd Fuckus? :mrgreen:
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