TD clutch in 16v?

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:45 pm

Seen this mod listed on Gary's car. Should I do it?

Matt H · Post by **Matt H** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:37 pm

I thought it was the same anyway?

djoptix · Post by **djoptix** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:59 pm

If that's the case, that would certainly put me off doing the swap.

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:52 pm

They are the same, yeah.

Post by **Defender110** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:04 pm

3rd they are the same.

JayW · Post by **JayW** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:04 am

I thought the TD clutch had stronger springs to account for the added torque?

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:12 am

JayW wrote:I thought the TD clutch had stronger springs to account for the added torque?

What, all 1lbft of it?

TD brings it in a bit lower, so if anything it'd need a harder-core friction lining, or better yet a bigger diameter if it needed to be any stronger. But with the expected use of a 16v being a bit more brutal, I'd expect that to have the stronger clutch. If they were different anyway

BX Bandit · Post by **BX Bandit** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:35 am

Different clutch plate, but the mech is the same.
I must confess I thought it would of been the mech that's different, to give not necessarily a stronger clutch (as kitch says there's 1lb ft in it) but to give a faster gear change.
Not sure how the plate is different

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Clutch plate could be different between brands rather than design. They both use the same part numbers, as long as they're BE3.

BX Bandit · Post by **BX Bandit** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:25 pm

Citroen list the plate as different part numbers but doesn't differentiate between be1 or be3 boxes. I wonder why they use a different part number? Were all oe clutches Valeo?

Post by **docchevron** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:54 pm

Citroen list different numbers because they were different!
Not very different, but yeah, slightly more meat on the friction faces is all

Vanny · Post by **Vanny** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:55 am

Try this simple list of part numbers to see the differences between cross over parts.

NB only covers diesel and 16v.

Kitch · Post by **Kitch** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:39 am

BX Bandit wrote:Citroen list the plate as different part numbers but doesn't differentiate between be1 or be3 boxes. I wonder why they use a different part number? Were all oe clutches Valeo?

Supercessions, that's all. Part numbers change when OE suppliers changed, or when they changed the format of the numbers. Things like that.

Ford are the worst. They change FINIS codes every 6 months on some bits. Total PITA.

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