1989 19TRS with aircon - breaking

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1989 19TRS with aircon - breaking

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Just been to my local scrappy to nab a bonnet for the TZD. There are two BXs there - one's a 1.9 poverty spec and rough as a badger's backside, the other is/was a fairly posh 19TRS Auto with aircon. 130,000km on the clock and appears to have been retired due to a duff head gasket rather than rust or neglect. It looks as if it's been looked after - interior (blue twill) apart from driver's seat pretty much unmarked - even the rubber trim bits on the centre handbrake/height adjuster console are intact, which I don't think I've ever seen before on a BX! (nabbed that for mine even though it's the wrong colour). It's got rear headrests too.
Weather permitting I'm going back tomorrow (saturday) morning to grab the front struts (at 35 euros each it'd be rude not to) so if anyone's after any aircon-specific bits I can ask for prices. Happy to store bits until such time as I'm back in UK (Can usually drop off in Loughborough or Peterborough areas, sometimes in Dorset, Suffolk or Essex).

As far as I know all the aircon bits are still there, as is the carb etc. Head is missing, that's about it
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Might be a silly question but how poverty is the poverty spec one?

I'd like some manual window winders for my 16v - not sure how much I would have to change over to make this happen, I'm hoping it might just be the winder mechanism and the handles (and make holes in the door cards for the new handles). I know it seems silly but it's really hard to find a BX without front electric windows!
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if the centre console is grey and perfect I would be very interested! Can collect from Loughborough....what year is the car Kev?

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Tim Leech wrote:if the centre console is grey and perfect I would be very interested! Can collect from Loughborough....what year is the car Kev?

Can you take some piccies?
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Doh, sorry. Long day, Kev if you can check what kind of coil arrangement it has, the later ones have the small square one attached to the block, the earlier have a standard size bolted to the bulkhead...if its the latter I really could use the lead/s from the coil to the dizzy (NOT the king lead), which comprises of a black connector that clips into the dizzy and the rest to the connectors on top of the coi itself.

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I presume the car Kev has spotted is in France?! Will a LHD A/C set up be any different to RHD?
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djoptix wrote:Might be a silly question but how poverty is the poverty spec one?

I'd like some manual window winders for my 16v - not sure how much I would have to change over to make this happen, I'm hoping it might just be the winder mechanism and the handles (and make holes in the door cards for the new handles). I know it seems silly but it's really hard to find a BX without front electric windows!
This one hasn't even got a clock, so I'd be surprised if it's got electric windows! I'll have a look - I think the door cards are off it and it's a bit of a mess inside so I didn't really notice much about it.
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Tim Leech wrote:Doh, sorry. Long day, Kev if you can check what kind of coil arrangement it has, the later ones have the small square one attached to the block, the earlier have a standard size bolted to the bulkhead...if its the latter I really could use the lead/s from the coil to the dizzy (NOT the king lead), which comprises of a black connector that clips into the dizzy and the rest to the connectors on top of the coi itself.

Cheers.
I'll have a look - can't remember about the coil. Or the dizzy for that matter. Is the dizzy on the end of the camshaft on those? Given that the head's missing, might be 'issues' there.

As for the centre console, I was going to remove the rubber bits and fit to one of mine but if it's to help make a really nice one even nicer then I might be persuaded to part with it – mine are both workhorses really and I doubt having an extra bit of rubber would significantly enhance my quality of life!
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mds141 wrote:I presume the car Kev has spotted is in France?! Will a LHD A/C set up be any different to RHD?
Now that is a very sensible question... Yes the car's in France and LHD, but I have no idea whether the actual setup is any different.
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Hi there very interested in the two recirculation motors and the secondary cabin fan!

I'm actually driving through France in late July, will be passing Rouen if that's anywhere near you?

Let me know if things are available.

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Secondary fan I understand, but recirculation motors? No idea what they look like as I've got no experience with aircon - pictures? Pretty sure it's all there, just a case of asking for a price.
Rouen's about 120 miles from me - I'm near Coutances in the Manche department, about 60 miles south of Cherbourg on the west coast of the sticky-up bit. I'll be away for most of July following the Tour de France, but should be back by about the 23rd (assuming the H van keeps running!).
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The recirc motors and secondary fan are all found in the scuttle bit either side of the windscreen wiper motor. The motors attach to the intake of the fans and are at the far end of both sides.

I *think* they can both be removed without taking out the dash...

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Some pictures of aircon bits here, not sure if this helps or not..

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Yes, that helps - thanks!
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If they're available and cheap, I'm good for a pair of LHD headlights to put into the St Tropez for French trips. I'll be coming through Northern France on the 29th July, so I could collect.
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