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Ian_Fearn wrote:I’ve put loads of waxoil on the rust prone areas .
Seen a few references to waxoil on the Forum and as I have a car with an excellent bodywork condition, is this a treatment I should know about?

Would appreciate replies on the what, why, where & whens of this. :?
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Its not a product, its an institution :) Its waxy oily stuff that closely resembles the cavity wax manufacturers spray into box sections, comes with an applicator (buy the more expensive one) or use a compressor and a body schutz gun to saquirt it where the sun dont shine, it needs to be kept warm during application, I keep mmine in the airing cupboard for a week before use then stand the can in boiling water during usem dont get it on your glasses though.
try googling finnegans waxoyl for more.
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Its a messy messy job to do but well worth it!
i used to do them all the time at work!! used to keep the waxoil with a heat gun on the container for 10 mins or so to make it nice and runny! Not forgetting to add 20% white spirit to it too to actually allow it to bond to the bottom of the car! Dont forget though, its only really worth applying to a clean bottom of the car! ( its a lot easier when you have a two poster ramp and a £5k power washer to use too!)
There are other equallly good products about, i got a 5l tub of Tetraseal from my local wholesalers for £7! couple of cheap brushes and lots of heat and your laughing!
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Waxoyling isn't a "messy" job...

Changing LHM is a "messy" job.

Waxoyling is a HORRENDOUSLY messy job! :lol:

I've never found Waxoyl to be any good as an underseal, it get's washed off too easily. The best place for it is inside box sections, sills, pillars etc. If you get the Waxoyl applicator system, it comes with a really thin spray tube, which will go into all the nasty little nooks and crannies in most vehicles, and prevents the dreaded "rusting from the inside" problem.

I've put a load up in the A-pillars (windscreen pillars) of my sis's BX to prevent that problem. It's also got several litres of the stuff in the sills, and around the seams of the boot.

In order to get waxoyl runny, I keep it on an overnight storage heater. Works wonders.
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Someone on the FCF posted about using various types of Hammerite as an underseal. I've tried searching but I can't find the thread. Does anyone else know where it is?

From what I remember, he steamwashed the car, then sprayed various types of (?) red ? black? Hammerite several times on the underside.
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There was a thread on the 2CVGB forum a while ago on the merits of using Hammerite Paint .....the general opinion was that its no use on panels which flex 'cos it sets too hard and cracks when the panel flexes .....I realise that BX's [prob'ly :? ] are made of better steel but I would'nt use it as an underbody treatment.
I waxoyled my 2CV in '88 when I bought it [new] and so far it's never had to be welded and the body is still virtually rust free ....I found the easiest way was to live dangerously by heating it up on camping stove and making my own applicator from an old gearbox oil bottle [the type with the plastic tube for squirting oil into the gearbox]
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The problem with Hammerite and Smoothrite is that they are paints and therefor are only as good as the preparation. Waxoyl isn't as particular and 'Black waxoyl' is a mix of conventional undersal in waxoyl solution and may be less fussy.

I agree - waxoyl is useless in areas where its going to get blasted by rain etc. Its probably fine for the sheltered area under the floor between the chassis members and obviously box sections etc.

The real problem with all forms of body preservation is actually getting the job done is its hard work and filthy.

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Terry Brooks wrote:...live dangerously by heating it up on camping stove...
:shock: :shock:

Waxoyl has a flash-point temperature of only 75degC.

And burns very well indeed. Don't ask me how I know that.
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Post by DavidW »

Not looked in for a while but noticed this thread. It's long but read the following from a Land Rover forum... the best Waxoil story ever.

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>>>>>The event I’m organising looms close, very close, Sunday to be precise, and I have been burning the midnight oil to get things sorted.

Waxoil….

I really wanted to get some of this into the Land Rover's chassis before I started using it, so tonight was planned to be the night for waxoiling the inside of the chassis….

I had gone to Halfords and bought 2 gallons, and knocked off work early…

I also had the real benefit that SWMBO was out tonight, so I had since 3.00pm been shoving the 2 gallon cans into the sink with near boling water…….

I should have known things were going to go “slightly wrong” when I started….

I decided to use a Waxoil gun, and my compressor, I had the propane burner on in the workshop since 3.00pm flat out and it was like the sahara, in fact it was so hot I decided a T shirt and shorts was the dress code………

Grabbing some white spirit to further thin the waxoil I entered the kitchen and unscrewed the waxoil lid…

Thhhhuuuumpppppppp !…grwat big snotty big dollop spewed out over the kitchen worksurface........, no probs I thought, ...I’ll sort that out when I’ve finished, as I might make "a little bit more mess yet", .....glad Sues not in….

Clutching bloody hot waxoil injector thingy, part filled with waxoil and mixed with very very warm white spirit I squirted and soaked the chassis blasting away, and also practising holding my breath .....as it went misty in the workshop….

1 Gallon later I was nearly there, I was at the rear cross member, with yet another huge refill…….

I ought to point out that I had also decided that at some of the angles I was at pulling and holding the trigger was a pain in the ar&e...( I have a really bad back) so I had devised a cunning lock of an elastic band on the trigger so that I could let it do it things whilst it sprayed away……

Shove tube into hole and pull trigger….lock and waggle etc…

Enter my wifes love of her life…..

The cat….

It sat there and looked at me the way only a cat can….it sniffed (unapprovingly) the dripped waxoil, and I said…

“Huh, you don’t want to be in here matey, this stuff will stick to your fur like sh*t to a blanket”……and at that very point the jammed on tube extension came off the gun…

Could I release the elastic band round the trigger ?…

Could I boll*cks….

The gun squirted warm waxoil/white spirit out at a force never so far experienced, one particularly good jet hit the cat, who bolted, knocking over the 2/3 empty (1/3 full!!) can of hot waxoil/white spirt mix, which flowed oh so well under the landy, and into my clothes T shirt and clothes and skin areas exposed..., but I was still fighting with the hot octopus trying to switch the damned thing off, but I failed, I was saved when it just ran out…..

Just when I thought nothing could get worse than lying under a Land Rover with waxoil soaked clothes, waxoil dripping onto my hair and face, and running into my ears….

Some waxoil drpped onto the lead lamp….

Ping….

Blackness…….

Blackness as it also pinged the fuse for the lighting circuit, getting myself out of the underneath of the landy proved friutfull, in that I knew all the places that waxoil had “leaked” ……

Removing dripping clothes I entered house in “minimal Clothes” to resolve fuse prob, when Lights went on I saw the cat…

I AM GOING TO DIE IF SHE SEES THIS !

Here Puddie cattie……

This did not improve the sink/kitchen area one little jot, .....ever tried holding a 'waxoiled cat' in a sink with water and rags, and especially when cat does not enjoy it ?….

1 hour later cat was scrubbed and very piss7d off with me, I’ve had 2 baths, and also cleaned the bath it seems that the bath will not be rusty….scrubbed kitchen fllor, sink, worktop

Will she notice….

Cat stinks, garage sticks, alley way stinks, I stink, kitchen smells of lemon washing up liquid, which strangely we seem to nearly be out of ?….floor stinks……

She will be back any minute…….

[gulp]

Nice job on the Landy tho....... :-)))


....UPADTE...............

...later that evening......

Alleyway door closes and SWMBO walks in.....

"have a nice time dear ?......."

"what the HELL is that smell ?"

"Smell ?....er do you mean the waxoil ?"

"Is that what it is - its disgusting"

"Er..really"....

"yes really, the alleyway stinks, I mean I could smell it when I got out of the car..."

"er...really ?"

"yes, Really, I mean my G*d its stinking everywhere out, its even permutated the house "

"really"

"yes really and [ picks up cat - I look away at telly and pray]...and ....good grief even the cat smells of it its ....[ at this point the cat growls at Sue.....probably hand enough of being "handled" during the evening...]..."WELL if your going to be like that madam you grumpy old thing" ...[places cat down firmly - cat grumbles some more].. cat exits still grumbling

"Charming.........well.....Anyway, have you finished.........?"


THOUGHTS...............

I've got away with it...."yes dear thanks"...
I've got away with it...."all done"...I've got away with it...."think I'll have a beer"...I've got away with it....I've got away with it...."Would you like a glass of wine ?"....I've got away with it....yippee....I've got away with it....and

SHE'S GOT THE HUMP WITH THE CAT TOO - NOT ME !!

Beer....

Bed....

RESULT....... !

But a bit close for comfort......far to close
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Damn. Laughed so hard I had to share it with the rest of the office!

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That is hysterical :D

Tears running down my eyes at the thought of a Waxoyl-encrusted naked guy washing a cat in a sink!!!!
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:D :D :D LOL yup sure is messy.
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[quote="Way2go"][quote="Ian_Fearn"]I’ve put loads of waxoil on the rust prone areas .[/

It was the first thing I did in 1998 when my TXD found me and well worth the effort! Yes I agree with the hot water treatment too, works well but great patience needed as it takes a while to reach the best consistency.

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Post by rob-bx16v »

yes cornish thats true i just love undersealing. 8) :lol:

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8) Ive done 4 bxs in total now.
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Post by rob-bx16v »

All under body painted in 2 coats of black hammerite, then followed by 2 futher coats of hammerite car body underseal with added waxoyl, all suspensin pipes,brake pipes, box sections and hard to reach areas sprayed with hammerite clear waxoyl.
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