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Was the BX prepared to be able to run on unleaded fuel with damaging the head?
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Re: unleaded fuel
Stuff from that date with valve inserts are normally OK as its toughened steel. As to specifics, dunno.
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Re: unleaded fuel
As far as I am aware all models (petrol) will run on unleaded, EXCEPT the 1.4 pre August 1988. This early engine is the 150C unit and lays back at about 10 deg from horizontal, unlike the replacement later TU 1.4 unit which is vertical. The later unit goes right through the ZX into Xsara and is rated as being pretty good by most techs. The 150C engine should be run on LRP (Lead replacement petrol) or uses an additive or inline filter (google them) to help prevent damage to the valve seat area. I ran a 150C unit to 175k on 4* leaded and LRP, it ean better on the 4* but OK on the LRP. Didn't bother changing the timing and performance and fuel consumption were pretty much identical, ie too small to notice a difference.
My own take is that the later engines will be better for running on unleaded as the valve seat materials may have evolved slightly over the production run. Although I have a '91 car, I have a catalyst in the tank to 'help' the fuel. In this case on a B2C 1.6 XU52C engine. I doubt there would be any problems with the 1.9 or 16v engines especially as the latter are all fuel injection and later ones with Cat. Note you should only put a catalyst in fuel if it is carburettor, NOT injection, as that will have a catalytic converter on the exhaust and the trace elements added to the fuel will clog it.
My own take is that the later engines will be better for running on unleaded as the valve seat materials may have evolved slightly over the production run. Although I have a '91 car, I have a catalyst in the tank to 'help' the fuel. In this case on a B2C 1.6 XU52C engine. I doubt there would be any problems with the 1.9 or 16v engines especially as the latter are all fuel injection and later ones with Cat. Note you should only put a catalyst in fuel if it is carburettor, NOT injection, as that will have a catalytic converter on the exhaust and the trace elements added to the fuel will clog it.
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Re: unleaded fuel
Unlike a lead footed Tinkley? Apologies, sensible answer actually.Tinkley wrote: and the trace elements added to the fuel will clog it.
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Re: unleaded fuel
16v with 2-row ECU (upto around 1990) was a 4-star car, not designed for unleaded. They run fine on it, but not sure how the valve seats will look after another 100k!
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Re: unleaded fuel
Ok, thanks guys,
AS I only intend on doing 600 miles per year I don't think I should have a problem.
AS I only intend on doing 600 miles per year I don't think I should have a problem.
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1985 BX19 GT
1970 SEAT 124 ESTATE (same as FIAT)
1971 HONDA PC50
MODERN CARS:
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2000 SKODA FABIA 1.9 TDI ELEGANCE
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1970 SEAT 124 ESTATE (same as FIAT)
1971 HONDA PC50
MODERN CARS:
2005 AUDI ALLROAD 4.2
2000 SKODA FABIA 1.9 TDI ELEGANCE
Re: unleaded fuel
My valver runs ok on super unleaded, but seems to run a bit 'rough' on the normal 95 RON stuff. Now on 120,000 miles.
It's probably now 22 years since 4* was phased out, some I'm guessing any valve seat recession will already be present, if at all.
It's probably now 22 years since 4* was phased out, some I'm guessing any valve seat recession will already be present, if at all.
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Re: unleaded fuel
22 years! We are showing are age lol.
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1985 BX19 GT
1970 SEAT 124 ESTATE (same as FIAT)
1971 HONDA PC50
MODERN CARS:
2005 AUDI ALLROAD 4.2
2000 SKODA FABIA 1.9 TDI ELEGANCE
1985 BX19 GT
1970 SEAT 124 ESTATE (same as FIAT)
1971 HONDA PC50
MODERN CARS:
2005 AUDI ALLROAD 4.2
2000 SKODA FABIA 1.9 TDI ELEGANCE
Re: unleaded fuel
Yup. 2*, 3* and 4*. I also remember the Green Shield Stamps. Also remember collecting Smurf figures from 'National' petrol stations. Happy days.
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1989 BX GTi 16 valve. Blanc Alpine. Completed the Citroen Classic Challenge Ecosse and 1337 miles without a hitch.
2000 XM VSX 2.1 td Auto. Rouge Magenta.
TGD saloon many years ago.
1990 Swift 'Corniche' 12/2 aka BXClub HQ.
Honda Firestorm. Gone, but not forgotten.
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Is it just me or is everything shit?
1989 BX GTi 16 valve. Blanc Alpine. Completed the Citroen Classic Challenge Ecosse and 1337 miles without a hitch.
2000 XM VSX 2.1 td Auto. Rouge Magenta.
TGD saloon many years ago.
1990 Swift 'Corniche' 12/2 aka BXClub HQ.
Honda Firestorm. Gone, but not forgotten.
2015 Triumph Tiger Explorer XC.