Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

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Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by kiwi » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:45 am

Does anyone know of a source of this part for my TZD Turbo diesels pump.

Details we have is its a Lucas Cav Type 058

Part number is DPC-R884-3B454D

Sere no. 610669mhf

Hunting high and low in New Zealand without much luck.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by Philip Chidlow » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:06 am

Sounds like you have the same pump as mine and I'm after a boost diaphragm which is possibly what you're looking for, so when I locate a source I'll let you know...

Although I need to check I actually need one I do want to have one spare at the very least!
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by rutter123 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:29 am

Do you have a local diesel specialist? As the diaphragm is prob common to more than one pump.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by jamescarruthers » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:33 am

I had one go recently on the XM. I has a similar old Lucas Pump (062). I got parts from Tony at Colchester Fuel Injection. My part number probably wont be the same but they were very helpful so may be able to help you too.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by themildbunch » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:56 am

You can get these as just the rubber part from a UK eBay seller, who's really helpful - I've posted the link before - can't remember it offhand...

The other part that's often sold is the whole unit with the housing that screws in and includes the diaphragm - I bought one a few years ago and it's a Delphi part around £100GBP...
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by KevR » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:16 pm

http://www.diydieselshop.com/ - the best source for anything for older diesels, and also very generous with advice/diagnostic experience. He'll post worldwide.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by Philip Chidlow » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:18 pm

How do I find out what model pump I have: I can't see any numbers on it.

I know its Lucas. Image
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by KevR » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:26 pm

There almost certainly are numbers on it, but they're on a rivetted blue/silver plate that's almost impossible to see. On the main body of the pump (round bit) probably can only be seen from underneath, with a mirror on a stick... Usually covered in muck which doesn't help. If you're just after the BCV diaphragm though, I'm pretty sure they're standard for all those Lucas DP pumps. They are an utter bastard to change in situ, by the way - don't try and fiddle at it from above - removing the radiator and intake piping makes it a LOT easier.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by KevR » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:31 pm

BTW, I'm intrigued. What's with the modified crank breather layout? And the wossname cable tied to the crank breather hose...? Looks like a mini relay but not fully connected?
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by Philip Chidlow » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:55 pm

The breather was repositioned when we fitted the induction kit and temp sensor. The cone filter and so on worked well, but was too noisy so I've since changed it all back (putting a K&N in the standard box. Much better). The cable is from a switch in the cabin for a fan override. This is WIP as it's not all wired up yet. Should be done this summer along with getting a resistor sorted for the temp dial which although neatly positioned to the right of the instruments on the dash, reads 100 when it should be reading 82 degrees lol.
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Re: Diesel Pump Diaphram needed

Post by KevR » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:47 pm

Ah, I see. Mainly asked as I'm about to re-plumb my crankcase breather so it goes via an oil catch tank rather than straight to the filter box. Might vent it to air or a separate filter, don't know yet. That way should avoid the problems associated with high mileage TDs breathing a lot of oil back into the intercooler and hence clogging the BCV and pipe.
I'd recommend ditching those pre-insulated blue crimps on the relay btw, and using some proper crimps....
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!