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Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Tinkley » Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:13 pm

Where can you get steering rack gaiters from? The originals ie Citroen ones are still available but seem a bit pricey. Are there decent patterna available? For 1.6 TGS with PAS. I probably need to do at least the offside (easy) one and maybe the horrible near side one too.

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by themildbunch » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:36 pm

I think the Xantia ones fit and are stretchy but I'v recently done the harder one on my TZD and I got a Bailcast universal boot kit that had both sides in - super stretchy when warmed up and you just cut down any extra bits you don't need.. worked perfectly and less than a tenner from eBay
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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Way2go » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:36 am

Tinkley wrote:Where can you get steering rack gaiters from? .............Are there decent patterna available? For 1.6 TGS with PAS.
I presume this is the same as for my GTi?

Camberley Auto Factors are good. Product supplied was SHAFTEC SRG548 which is rubber and contains both sides. You could also check if the product is available via other Factors too. :D
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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Tinkley » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:48 am

Thanks guys. I have a CAF close by in Liphook so will give them a call. A quick googly on that Shaftec No served up only two suppliers, one of which was out of stock!. Listed for 1.6 though.

Yes, it should be the same as the GTI, why change the PAS system?. I'm sure they kept as many parts as same across the model range as similar as possible to keep costs down. Like almost all hubs (maybe not 16v) are the same from year one except for the ABS ones.

Just phoned Camberley and they have a kit 'on the shelf'!!!! Off to get one, will see if it is any good and report back. Good for them, as they are not my favourite factor - try LHM at twice the normal price, making a Citroen stealer look very cheap. Still as they say, be aware of all outlets.... :wink:

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by themildbunch » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:05 pm

The main issue with rack gaiters as I see it is how much they stretch as the OEM gaiters have no stretch so can only be fitted to one side by removing the rack completely!

The universal Bailcast bootsare good as they are very stretchy so when heated and greased, they slip over the ram spigot pretty easily. I can't vouch for their longevity yet but they seem pretty tough...
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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Tinkley » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:16 pm

Thanks for the info tmb. I have managed to get the Shaftec ones W2G mentioned. They seem pretty flexible and much more so than the ones on it (probably original 1991 ones), so will give them a go. If the ones on the car are as factory fitted, I can't moan at the life....

As with the front return struts (I am replacing the failed GSF one, five months it lasted), the proof of the pudding is in the mileage and time. However, although subjective, the material seems to have a good feel. As only the o/s is split, I'll do that for the MOT but check the n/s - the pig.

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by citronut » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:30 am

you dont want the OE type as they are thermo plastic and do not streach!!!!

i use the likes of

http://www.firstline.co.uk/

and there taylor fit variety rather than the universal version

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Tinkley » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:10 am

Thanks Malcolm, I have fitted the Firstline droplinks and they seem OK. Watch out though as they are a mite shorter than the OE and require the height adjuster collar to be reset for ride height.

I had noted that the OE gaiters are a lot stiffer, but both types, OE and replacements are thermoplastics, just one type has more plastisizer in the compound. Almost certainly one of the synthetic 'rubbers' maybe EPDM (like window/door seals) or similar. Could be the originals are PVC with only a small ammount of plastisizer? Hard to tell without drawing specifications or a bit of destructive testing with solvents!.

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by rutter123 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:27 am

Got mine from Neat West Drayton, they werent in a box just a plastic bag with an irrelevant part no, they charged £5 for the pair prob old stock but seemed perfectly fine still ok after a few years and the n/s stretched over the ram post. GSF can also supply tho not a stock item.
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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by Tinkley » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:29 pm

I actually asked GSF as I was in there (last week), and they said we don't do those.

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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by electrokid » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:42 am

Plasticisers often outgas or leach out or change chemically over time so the originals may have been more flexible when new.
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Re: Steering rack (PAS) Gaiters

Post by citronut » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Tinkley wrote: but both types, OE and replacements are thermoplastics, just one type has more plastisizer in the compound. Almost certainly one of the synthetic 'rubbers' maybe EPDM (like window/door seals) or similar. Could be the originals are PVC with only a small ammount of plastisizer? Hard to tell without drawing specifications or a bit of destructive testing with solvents!.
the first line type are rubber and very stretchy
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