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Window down

Post by Thickasmud » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:11 pm

Yesterday when pressing the window switch a small "bang" in the door and the window dropped completely down into the door. :cry: It was cold, wet and very windy all the way home #-o

So this afternoon I have taken out the card and found this completely disconnected from any thing, the glass is still in the channels and the securing bolts to the "regulator" are all tight. The car is a Ph2 with Al channels which look fine.

What do I need to do to make it all water tight again, please (I have a roll of laminate underlay for the membrane).

Below is the removed part that went AWOL.

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Re: Window down

Post by Defender110 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:32 pm

Temporarily push the glass up by hand and block it up with a wooden prop cut to size whilst you source a replacement window regulator or repair your own. The main pivot axle that holds a coiled spring has come out or snapped by the looks. If you take the complete regulator out you way be able to refit the axle and secure it with a small weld.
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Re: Window down

Post by Defender110 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:43 pm

Here's a picture of the complete thing to give you an idea of what has separated.

http://www.magnumvs.co.uk/citroen-bx-wi ... italy.html
Kevan
1987 Citroen BX MK1 diesel estate.(Currently in dry storage)
1997 Mercedes C230 W202 - daily driver.
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Re: Window down

Post by Thickasmud » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:23 pm

Thanks Defender, the pivot axle had decided to do its own thing so the window is now on batton crutches whilst the liquid metal cures. Meanwhile I need a replacement drivers side mech. I assume I will need to find an electric mech or are the manual versions the same?

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Re: Window down

Post by Defender110 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:45 pm

No manual versions are different, I have some doors in my garage loft which I am emptying out this weekend so will see if I have one for you.
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Re: Window down

Post by Thickasmud » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:09 pm

My repaired window mech lasted exactly as long as it took me to put everything back together, as soon as I had reclipped the door mirror trim the little **&&£(@:!$$ dropped straight down into the door again, ohh how I laughed. So the window is now temporarily I hope, propped up with lengths of water pipe, which I found easier to cut and jamb into place.

Still as least I now know how to put it all together again and in what order to get the runners back into the guide rails.

Defender if you do find any offside/driver side mechanism please let me know. Seems a shame to have to junk the whole thing when its just the pivot axle piece thats worn through the collar, has anyone succesfully rewelded or found a way to bodge the pivot axle back together so it actually works?

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Re: Window down

Post by Defender110 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:33 pm

I have a complete door I can take it out of.
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Re: Window down

Post by Pallas » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:28 pm

I used the mechanism from a back door (same side of course), they are in a much better shape usually. Only difference is that the window will stop 2-3cm earlier on the way down.

If you just find a handcranked back one, no problem. You can easily remove the handcrank sprocket (it's held by 3 cmall clamps, bend them open) and attach your electroc motor with 3 usual hex headed screws and the original motor nuts, you just need to grind off some material from the screw heads to flatten them a bit (so the mechanism won't block itself), and cut the screws to length.