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rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:07 pm

Been a while since ive been on and I cant see any stupid questions in the top few topics so....

Im refurbing the rear arems and have done the arm bearings. I have new rear wheel bearings and this is where I am a bit stuck.

Question 1, are the hub nut and covers the same as any other model, ie pug 405? Ive looked on evil bay and cant see them for a bx, Im sure citroen will have them but they've had enough money recently on the modern cars! I have 3 skf bearing kits and 2 have no nuts and all 3 are missing new covers.

Question 2. Is there something that goes before the hub on the stub axle? I can see rusty remains of something, but what I dont know, could be the brake shield, I have replacements to fit for those but just wondered if there was a seperate cover or guard.

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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Kaapelimies » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:44 pm

Richb wrote:Question 2. Is there something that goes before the hub on the stub axle? I can see rusty remains of something, but what I dont know, could be the brake shield, I have replacements to fit for those but just wondered if there was a seperate cover or guard.
Yes there is a mudguard for the sealing as seen on the far left:
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They tend not to come with the bearing any more and I haven't found any source for those, despite for at least two different part numbers. They haven't been available from Citroen dealers in several years here.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:18 pm

Right. Thankyou fir the info. I can have them made if I have a sample. I guess this explains the bearing failure. Will try dealer to see if they have one in their old parts bin. Or if anyone has one to loan me......
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by rutter123 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:25 pm

Rich ive prob got a couple of rear hub nuts if you need, not new but usable.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:10 am

Hi cliff. I've found a couple in the box of spares I got with the car.

On a different matter part no 3726.14 which is the rusty bit that's no good and the bearings shoulder up to is unavailable. From what I've read the bearings don't last long without them as they don't run true. I have found someone who can manufacture them. But min order is 50. Would I be able to sell the remainder on. I've looked at both cars and they seem.poor on both. They are likely to be around £2-3 each.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by KevR » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:38 pm

From memory the rear wheel bearing is the same as Peugeot 305, not 405. Doing a search by part number for the washer/shield thing, this company claims to have them for a euro each....
http://www.original-genuine-spare-parts ... troen).htm

I was tempted to order a dozen or so just to see whether they actually have them. I'll be needing some too....
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by KevR » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:44 pm

It appears Quinton Hazell made a version of the washer: part number QWB2265, also Peugeot part number 95559360. Fits C15 and Xantia as well, I think.
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Re: rear hub nut and cov

Post by Richb » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:29 pm

ah keV. The bits I saw listed it as 405. Can't trust the internet.

I'm game to order them. There's also a Dutch co saying they have them to order as well.

If I had them made its on an automated lathe. The 50 is because that can't stop it before then.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by KevR » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:17 pm

Went through the order process to find out how much the postage was - about 16 euros to UK. Which obviously more than doubles the cost of the bits themselves. If you get some made or order some I'll take half a dozen off you.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:26 pm

Thanks kev. I tried searching before ppsting amd got no where. Must be the old phone!

Diagram found and emailed. Should have an amswer for thurs / fri. Might make it 100. The place seams to like you making multiples of hundreds... i get them to make bits for my bisoness all the time.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Kaapelimies » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:38 pm

Can you make them from galvanized material for extended lifetime?
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:20 pm

Was thinking of stainless to be honest.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Kaapelimies » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:42 pm

I'm not sure if the suspension arm will start rottening fast if it's in contact with stainless?
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Richb » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:03 pm

Shouldnt do. They use stainless mounts for brake pads on cast and no problem with corrosion there. If it was aluminium i wouldnt do it. Stainless on steel is regarded as safe with cast. You pften use stainless fasteners in it.
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Re: rear hub nut and cover

Post by Kaapelimies » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:25 pm

If they are like a quid a peace I could take 20 pieces easily. I think they fit also older Xantias, maybe the markets are wider? :)
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