1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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Have to replace L and R gaiters on the 1.9 Millesime steering rack.

Needing to order some decently stretchable gaiters (rather than OE thin/stiff ones), and wonder whether anyone could recommend any of those listed by Mister Auto - easy for me to order from here in Spain...
https://www.mister-auto.co.uk/steering- ... 1987-1993/

See that OE gaiters are different for L and R, but that most of the aftermarket ones as listed as the same (11mm∅/47mm∅/L=200mm) for both sides.

Was looking at the SKF ones, but unsure about stretchability.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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My left and right are definitely different. O/S has the smaller diameter nearest the wheel, N/S is similar* for both orifices. Unfortunately, after market don't always get that right.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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white exec wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:05 pm
Have to replace L and R gaiters on the 1.9 Millesime steering rack.

Needing to order some decently stretchable gaiters (rather than OE thin/stiff ones), and wonder whether anyone could recommend any of those listed by Mister Auto - easy for me to order from here in Spain...
https://www.mister-auto.co.uk/steering- ... 1987-1993/

See that OE gaiters are different for L and R, but that most of the aftermarket ones as listed as the same (11mm∅/47mm∅/L=200mm) for both sides.

Was looking at the SKF ones, but unsure about stretchability.
The MOOG ones on Mr Auto are recommended by others.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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Thanks, Dave/Jaba

Have ordered the MOOG kit, which contains the different sided gaiters.
Should be about the last job on the car, as everything else discovered now ticked off.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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The OEM ones (if you can find them) can't be fitted by stretching them over the ram boss, but they do compress down much smaller than the rubber ones, which tend to bind up.

MOOG are one of the better ones for stretching, yes.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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Hello,

I have done this job, the Drivers side went on easily, but the passenger side it was a bit of a dog, i found the best way of getting the gaiter over the power steering boss was with the use of a strong spoon handle. Also be aware that when the gaiter is compressed ( my gaiter was good at stretching but to long in compression) it may tend to push itself by the groove on the power steering housing and find its own place to settle.

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Thanks for the advice on this, really helpful. Obviously a trade-off between stretch and compression.
Looks like a job for next week.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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Would something like this be of any assistance on the awkward side?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Time-Saver-C ... Swlupc9i2D
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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The set i used was Delphi part number TBR3081 citreon - Ebay.co.uk/itm/Steering-Rack-Boot-Gaiter-Centre-for-CITROEN-BX-1-9-GTI-w-powersteer-Delphi/402217718954?fits=Model%3ABX&epid=1686190616&hash=item5da60b54aa:g:N5MAAOSwll5ekaO ( my BX is a 1987 1.9rd) the same gaiter set was advertised for BX 1.9d on Ebay for £29

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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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white exec wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:34 pm
Thanks for the advice on this, really helpful. Obviously a trade-off between stretch and compression.
Looks like a job for next week.

And the degredation of modern rubbers, don't forget that! :lol:
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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A flexible cone looks the way to go - that and a dollop of KY :roll:
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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panky wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:01 pm
Would something like this be of any assistance on the awkward side?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Time-Saver-C ... Swlupc9i2D
Probably so, just a case of getting something that fits in there. I have previously seem someone suggest cutting the top off a traffic cone. :shock:
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Oddly enough, we do have four half-size orange cones outside - OH's kit for dog training.
Have been told they are not to be cut up! [-X

The MOOG gaiter set arrived from MisterAuto today, and they are handed L&R, and promisingly stretchy.
By an error, two SKF gaiters also arrived (two identical ones), and interesting to find they are exactly the same as the Moog longer one, and almost certainly from the same factory. Discover that MOOG is Federal Mogul, with these gaiters labelled Made in Italy.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters

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That makes sense. There cannot be too many manufacturers these days for BX parts so your surmise does make sense and points to several brands but one manufacture source.
Fitting the LH gaiter is fiddly but with a stretchy gaiter it is just a case of easing it bit by bit back and front over the PS stud. It is often more difficult to get the gaiter on to the rack outer casting than over stud I have found. Be sure to secure it tightly at the rack end as the compression can force it out of position.
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Re: 1.9D PAS rack gaiters - and progress!

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LH (steering pinion) side gaiter done yesterday. It was in tatters, with most of its forward-facing side missing, and further fell apart as the remains were removed.

Interesting that a bit of it still had the mfg date, 2/1992, so original, and - real surprise - made of the same thicker, stretchy plastic as the current aftermarket ones. So even the factory must have switched away from the thin variety at some point.

Today, looked at the more hidden RH (ram spigot) side, and was amazed to find it still in one piece, and in good condition. Original wire clips in place, so likely OE as well. Left well alone, as plenty of other things to do today.
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So, that's the last obvious bit of maintenance ticked off - until something else shows up, of course. :-$

Good news this morning was finding that my temporary (green!) registration plates have been allocated, and should be collectable tomorrow/day after \:D/. This also meant that I could get the car insured, so comprehensively done, with the insurance company just needing a few photos of it (inside and out) with the temp plates on.

So, now to be drivable on public roads this week, there's an Engineer inspection lined up for Friday morning. That should enable a matriculation ITV (MoT) test to be scheduled, and permanent plates and Spanish documents issued.

In true Trafico tradition, any car imported and plated, however old, simply gets the next reg.no. off the pile, so expecting to get L** ****, which you'd expect to see on a brand new car! #-o All good stuff, for a 28-year-old.

It's been a long and tiring haul (Mike did warn me...) has the matriculation of this imported car, complicated at almost every stage, and in contrast to the slick and speedy process of matriculating the XM brought with us from the UK in 2004. Never mind, an end is in sight - I think.
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